How We Got the Bible. Pt.1
January 14, 2010 by
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the books translated in the King James Bible were declared canonical and divinely inspired by the authority (A) of the Synod of Jamnia and (B) of the Catholic Church, meeting in Carthage more than 300 years after the time of Jesus. It is thus that fundamentalist Protestants get the authority of their Bible from Jews who had rejected Jesus and from Catholics whom they abominate as the Scarlet Woman mentioned in Revelation. … religion wisdom advice community video blog alan watts physical …
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I hate when people just make fun of whatever they want without even considering anything about it. You should actually study other religions before you go make fun of them. I bet you don’t even know the depths of islam.
the books of the new testiment were written 400 years before Islam
THE CONQUERER WRITES HISTORY!
the bible is white man bullshit, cause they fear the muslims.
humans you should fear, cause i am a decendant of able.
catholics fear what the truth is, that peter was a chicken, three times, bok,bok,bok,bokeeer!!!!
repect my authority!!
Your point although true, is not relevant to the the point I was making, but I used ‘math’ for exactly those reasons you stated -I was being cheeky.
but to make the connection between the bible a work of literature and a mathematics book is a very poor metaphor for the bible . as the veracity of ones content “mathimatics book” can be tested independently with multiple mathematic proofs and its results reproduced with 100% consistency. But the bible is subject to personal interpretation not to mention translation and the effects of following its teaching are not consistant arcoss a demographic of people applying the teachings within .
no you would not conclude that all the writngs within your “book on mathematics” are wrong, one would check all aspects of your book against independent reveiw/sources . and once we had a clear understanding of which parts are true or false we would discard the wrong and except the right. we would not say oh okay so 60% of this book is wrong but as 40% is right we will continue to give this book to our maths teachers to teach our children from .
No Kings, No Queens, No Butterflies.
I think it’s important for Christians to ask themselves WHO it was that decided which books to include in the Bible and why those particular men chose those particular books.
And why were certain other books EXCLUDED?
Rather than a holy decision of God, this was a very controlling and manipulative decision by VERY UNHOLY MEN.
To say that “the Bible is the way it is because God wanted it that way” is a major cop-out, in my opinion.
The bible is just a dead tree. U seem so pissed off? There R a lot other texts that have informed Christian Theology such as the book of Enoch and other books that didn’t ‘get in’ to canon. The bible has been changed many times and there have always been other sects of non-othodox christians even if they were just underground.
“the bible is the only authority on the God YHWH.”
James is an authority?
Bring him here, please,
and let him explain that to us.
Oh, wait, he’s DEAD!
So the Bible IS the ONLY authority on your little god.
As I said.
“As Galileo said:”
Yes, yes, please try to quote each mined quote
only once in a conversation.
Your Bible contains things that are true in the minds of some people.
That’s your point?
Well, I agree with that.
It certainly does NOT coincide with reality!
If a person, book. ect. is wrong in one subject or aspect, does that mean we should discard all of it? If I wrote a book on Mathmatics and another on Biology and my book on Biology turned out 2 B disproven by new information later on, does that mean my treatise on Math is also wrong?
And what about Aristotle? nearly all of his beliefs about how the factual world works have been totally discarded; but does that mean that all his philosophy should B discarded as well? On that basis? If so, than the converse of all that should B so as well.
So U R wrong about your understanding of Bible history and scholorship. Does that mean your understanding of the factual world is wrong 2? Not all scientific theories that have existed where right. It didn’t make the scientific theory invalid. Phygiston theory was an earily theory of chemistry. Scientists believed it for a long time and any contrary evidence was regarded as mere anomoly. It wasn’t untill enough evidence was created and a new theory was put forward that it was discarded.
And U R wrong that the bible is the only authority on the God YHWH. The Jews did not decide on what was canon untill the 100s A.D. The Catholics did not decide on the N.T. untill the 300s. Not even to mention that Paul’s church constitutes the ’second’ wave of (gentile)christains. The first wave of christains (jewish) was led by James, Jesus’ brother. Not to mention all the different sects of Gnostic Christian and all of their bibles. There are different versions of the Tanak as well.
No, that is not correct. As Galileo said: the bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. To take Jung, for example: He demonstrated how even though Greek Mythology did not describe how things happened in the ‘world’ it does describe the dynamics ofhuman psychology. U wouldn’t say that what happens in your dreams R facts in the world, but they too describe your own psychology. Spiritual truth, likewise, does not have to coinside with with factual statements.
“The factual aspects of the bible have no bearing on its spiritual aspects. ”
Wrong.
If the things we CAN test are wrong,
how can we trust it for the things we can NOT test?
Jesus himself said that those who are unfaithful in small things will be unfaithful in big things.
And because the Bible is the ONLY authoritative source
of information about the god YHWH
and the ONLY authoritative source of christian doctrine,
factual errors invalidate YHEH and christianity.
bible= bedtime story for adults
The earliest copies of the O.T. that we have now are from the Dead Sea Scrolls. It is believed by scholars today that the original bio of Yeshua was written in Hebrew and then translated N2 Greek. The reason for this is because: if U translate the Greek N2 Hebrew in a way that makes sense, U find that Jesus’ teaching was mostly consistant with other rabbis of the day.
The factual aspects of the bible have no bearing on its spiritual aspects. As Galileo said,”the bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go.” Just as we have rejected much of Aristotle due to new and better information, so we can say the same thing about the bible in this regard.
FYI people… if anyone here has ever read the Norse gods mythology, it’s the same thing as the bible. In short, Odin’s second son Baldur, who was the beloved by nearly all except his half-bro and Loki, was killed by the latter mischievous god and in turn lead the universe towards it’s destruction, Ragnarok. Eventually he poops out alive again and somehow the universe is renewed again, blah, blah. In my opinion, all these religious story merely imply the eternal cycle of life and death, period
the earliest list of the 27 nt books did not exist until 367 , listed by athanasius
Well done Allan Watts. You talk the TRUTH. And to some, the truth hurts!!
FLAT EARTH IN THE BIBLE:
Isaiah 40:22 says the earth is a CIRCLE (Hebrew CHUWG).
(DURE is Old Hebrew for “sphere”, but Isaiah used CHUWG)
Daniel 4:10-11a tree that is as tall as the heavens
can be seen from everywhere on the earth
Matthew 4:8 has Jesus viewing the whole earth from a tall mountain.
Revelation 1:7 says every eye will see Jesus coming in the clouds.
Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation all require a flat earth.
Well, either flat or bowl-shaped.